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King Cold stronger then Perfect Cell?
Topic Started: Sep 2 2011, 09:09 PM (2,721 Views)
+ Steve Sep 4 2011, 01:28 PM Post #46
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Sep 3 2011, 12:51 PM
Ok then we take another list:
http://dbzdimension.com/powerlevelsadam.php

2nd form - 970,000
3rd form - 1,250,000
final form - 1,500,000
50% - 7,500,000
Frieza 100% = 15,000,000

King Cold 2.Form = 11,000,000

So Frieza has ca 1.000.000 in his 2. Form. In his 100% he has 15x more.

So:
King Cold 100% = 165.000.000

And now Cell:

Cell (after absorbing humans) - 35,000,000
after 17 - 63,000,000
after 18 (what is sensed) - 91,000,000
(actual power) - 120,000,000

Cell (Perfect) - 120,000,000
after Senzu - 125,000,000
Full power - 160,000,000
Buff (USSJ) - 320,000,000

So he could even fight Full Power Cell.
I hate Cold but I think its funny.


EDIT: Same on this list:
http://dbzdimension.com/powerlevelsbeatdown.php

I agree with those sort of power levels the ones everyone uses are way too high and just sound silly frankly better with 0 taken off I have Namek SSJ Goku at 15,000,000 not 150,000,000, that's just crazy how could he go from less than 300k to that in less than a day nobodys body could handle that
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Balthazor Sep 4 2011, 01:29 PM Post #47
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I'm damn serious
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Sep 4 2011, 01:23 PM
Cold CAN transform.
Frieza 4. Form is the state his race is born.
So it's the same with Cold.

And they SAY that Cold is stronger then Frieza.
If im at the episode again I will record it and show you...
Then why didn't he transform against trunks?he had plenty of time,he just warn saw his son getting cut in pieces,not to mention trunks told both of them to come at full power.


Oh,and in future trunks's timeline Goku killed both Freiza and cold by himself,so no,cold couldn't transform it isn't even implied that he could.
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Yuber Sep 4 2011, 01:35 PM Post #48
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 He was too arrogant.
He underestimated their strength and thought he could beat them.

Or it would take too much time to transform.
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Balthazor Sep 4 2011, 01:41 PM Post #49
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I'm damn serious

 Excuses,Goku would've gave cold the opportunity to transform as he did know Freiza could do these things.
He couldn't transform,or his giant form is his true form
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lunar2 Sep 4 2011, 02:05 PM Post #50
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 we don't even know what form cold is in, yuber. he was never stated to be in second form, and his appearance does NOT match any of frieza's forms, although it does resemble frieza's second form. frieza's arms in second form are scaly, cold's arms are smooth. frieza has thick body amor covering his torso, cold does not. cold is also much bigger than second form frieza.

also, i know the Funimation dub of the anime states that cold is stronger than frieza, but that dub is flawed. in the manga, Frieza still claims to be the strongest in the universe, with his dad standing right there. in the daizenshuu, cold is stated to be "somewhat inferior" to frieza.

@ second form frieza. frieza's exact words were:


Chapter: 296 (DBZ 102), P9.1-2
Freeza: "At any rate, my power is excessive. Perhaps I've overdone it... Kukkukku... Incidentally, if [my strength] were put into battle power, it would be over 1,000,000, surely..."
Vegeta: “Wh-what!?”

and this is just when he first transforms. he also powers up within this form.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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+ Pyrus Sep 4 2011, 07:02 PM Post #51
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Sep 3 2011, 12:51 PM
Ok then we take another list:
http://dbzdimension.com/powerlevelsadam.php

2nd form - 970,000
3rd form - 1,250,000
final form - 1,500,000
50% - 7,500,000
Frieza 100% = 15,000,000

King Cold 2.Form = 11,000,000

So Frieza has ca 1.000.000 in his 2. Form. In his 100% he has 15x more.

So:
King Cold 100% = 165.000.000

And now Cell:

Cell (after absorbing humans) - 35,000,000
after 17 - 63,000,000
after 18 (what is sensed) - 91,000,000
(actual power) - 120,000,000

Cell (Perfect) - 120,000,000
after Senzu - 125,000,000
Full power - 160,000,000
Buff (USSJ) - 320,000,000

So he could even fight Full Power Cell.
I hate Cold but I think its funny.


EDIT: Same on this list:
http://dbzdimension.com/powerlevelsbeatdown.php

Not only is this a terrible list, but Cell cannot by any stretches of the mind be anywhere that weak.
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I agree with those sort of power levels the ones everyone uses are way too high and just sound silly frankly better with 0 taken off I have Namek SSJ Goku at 15,000,000 not 150,000,000, that's just crazy how could he go from less than 300k to that in less than a day nobodys body could handle that

That's the same mentality a lot of newbies use. "Those official levels are way too high so I'm going to go with the incorrect numbers for no other reason than that". It's stupid, no offense to you.
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http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8353064&t=8313985
Cold CAN transform.
Frieza 4. Form is the state his race is born.
So it's the same with Cold.

That's an assumption you can't possibly back up with solid fact.
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And they SAY that Cold is stronger then Frieza.
If im at the episode again I will record it and show you...

That's the first FUNi dub, which is incorrect. In the original Japanese, it's stated that Cold and Freeza are just two "large Ki's" or whatever.
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http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8353047&t=8313985
Ok I found this list and they say it's official:
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Power_Levels

So then:
Frieza 2. Form = 1.000.000
Multiplier x120
Frieza 4. Form(100%) = 120.000.000

They say Cold is stronger then Frieza.

Cold 2. Form = 130.000.000(???)
x120
Cold 4. Form(100%) = 15.600.000.000

Goku SSJ = 150.000.000

So he is stronger then SSJ right? Or did I do something wrong again? List wrong too? ô.o







1. Don't ever use the DBZ wiki for anything important in your argument. It's a bad idea.

2. Read the fine print.

"This is a list of known and official Power Levels in the Dragon Ball universe. All of the levels on this list are taken from the manga, anime, movies, the official Daizenshuu guide, games and stated mathematical calculations."

It doesn't say the list itself is official, just that it contains official power levels. Also notice it includes games and "stated mathematical calculations", whatever the hell those are. There's your problem right there. It automatically cannot be trusted when people include games and "fan theories", because then it's not official. Notice how they lack sources for over half the levels given; bad list is bad.

3. There is no official list.
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Chi-Chi Sep 4 2011, 08:38 PM Post #52
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 Those numbers aren't accurate. Trunks beat King Cold easily, while Perfect Cell took a lot more effort to take down.
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5star Sep 4 2011, 11:19 PM Post #53
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 Before you guys compare sagas (namek and trunks/andriod)you should first consider that AT had planned to end the anime early..so subsequent episodes were difficult to make logical with the rest.

With that being said. I think this topic is ridiculous:

I think King colds power is some where either a bit weaker than frieza or a bit stronger than frieza, I'm leaning more towards the latter; Probably he was stronger than frieza but not by much and the way trunks dealt with frieza (as if he was nothing), forced him to believe he had no chance (or believe the sword was the source of his power lol)

so no in hell hes even strong as 1st form cell..
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+ Pyrus Sep 4 2011, 11:21 PM Post #54
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Sep 4 2011, 11:19 PM
Before you guys compare sagas (namek and trunks/andriod)you should first consider that AT had planned to end the anime early..so subsequent episodes were difficult to make logical with the rest.

With that being said. I think this topic is ridiculous:

I think King colds power is some where either a bit weaker than frieza or a bit stronger than frieza, I'm leaning more towards the latter; Probably he was stronger than frieza but not by much and the way trunks dealt with frieza (as if he was nothing), forced him to believe he had no chance (or believe the sword was the source of his power lol)

so no in hell hes even strong as 1st form cell..
That's just a rumor. Toriyama didn't want to end the series when Goku beat Freeza.
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